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Post  Surasin on Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:20 pm

The camera is totally a great invention to people since the past until now.Since the camera at first is not capture images but to help the artist to draw a picture so i do agree with Athikom and the text that"to sketch objects more quickly and avoid difficulties of perspective” (Lamar, 2011).For me the camera is very useful thing to capture what we want to remember.The camera and taking photos is all about framing so the camera is a very useful tool to capture a good frame so you can develop a good photo just by taking a right position of what you want to take and then you can create an art. The camera is developed in very high progress so in the present time people have a digital camera so they can delete it.This is the reason why nowsaday people don’t care about the value of photos anymore.

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Re: CommDe - Art History Response #3

Post  Nuanlphan on Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:55 pm

I agree with Nattakul's comment that she said....
'In the past, many artists use camera to help with their drawing. They used camera obscura to sketch objects more quickly and avoid difficulties of perspective' (Lamar, 2011)
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But...not only in the past but also now and go on. Artist use camera in many aims, to see how work on, to take a best shot from viewing and it take a less of time than sketch or use eye remember.

For me, camera is a very useful equipment to make references for drawing and I think it is very useful for other too. As Surasin's response, camera is very useful because it can capture a good frame so you can develop a good photo just by taking a right position of what you want to take and then you can create an art
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I think that many young artist do that too. We learn how to be good in difficult perspective, how to set a scene and collect more detail and reference by camera.

And about video, I love how men made invert landscape in dark room that make me...umm....us very interesting about Photo-technique.

Just saying....'Wow.....!.....Awesome...!' and 'We can play and develop this to more and more in our art& creative!'


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Post  teeranont wiwatjesadawut on Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:14 pm

I agree with Nuanlphan that "not only in the past but also now and go on. Artist use camera in many aims, to see how work on, to take a best shot from viewing and it take a less of time than sketch or use eye remember".This context show that camera is a useful equipment.It's an equipment that the artist can use to catch the picture in a few minute.The camera can capture more detailed view of a hand drawing by the artist."Camera is one of the creative invention of the world but actually it is not for capture a photo at first. From the past camera was created for the artist to help with thier drawing "to sketch objects more quickly and avoid difficulties of perspective” (Lamar, 2011). "This context is support my opinion.I think that photography is fascinating because we can compose the frame and then put it into a perfect and exhaustive.

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Post  LiliTcml on Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:21 pm

In the past, people use camera to help them with their paintings. But after the invention, people use camera more than before. Before that, the problem for the camera was light, which effects the photos a lot. The camera became more convenient to use and people use them more and more. Just like Harn Srisuwan said that the invention of the camera is a faster way of making and capturing glimpse of a moment.

Nowadays, photography plays a big role in the society. We use them to capture the moment or the part we want it to be memorable. I agree with Nattakul J that the images contain stories within itself. One photo could tell many things, even if it's not shown in the picture itself. When we took a photo and leave it for years, then we take it out and look again, we could feel the atmosphere of that moment. Imagine we're living without camera. It's would be harder to remember the places we visit or the things we met, or even someone we used to know.

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Post  panchika on Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:52 pm

I totally agree with all of above. We use camera since the pass until now. Invention of camera make me interesting because since the pass they use camera to obscure to sketch more quickly and avoid difficult of perspective. And light is one problem of the photograph I agree with the quote that said ‘Light is my wisdom and my enemy’ because the light can make picture look better and the light can also ruin the picture in the same time. But today camera is developing we don’t have to worry about the light because it have flash to help us for make picture looking good.

Photograph for me is like the memories. Whatever I want to remember I always use camera to capture it. And when we looking back to the photograph that we took the photograph can tell the story by itself. The picture that we took it’s just one of the part of the whole story but that thing can make we realize and remember about the whole things from the photograph that we capture it.

And I really agree with the quote ‘’The image contains the story within itself’’ the image can tell the thing more than the thing that in that image. Because when we look at one image it can make us realize about the other thing.

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Post  Panatchakornv. on Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:57 pm

I think the invention of camera have change the way we look at the world. Unlike the painting, the photographic medium in my opinion can be both very public and also very personal medium in the same time. The camera can be both the tools for photographer to capture the image from the current situation and also be a tools to capture personal memories. Nowadays photography is the art that can be easily manipulated. You can take a thousands of pictures and just choose the best one out. I think this is the reason why most people doesn't take photography as a serious form of art.


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Re: CommDe - Art History Response #3

Post  Virada on Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:13 pm

Cameras changed the art world majorly. In the past, paintings were the principle forms of art that were known to the world, however, when cameras entered the society, people were not fully aware of it’s full potential and denied this subject from being a branch of an art form. I agree with Pintita that photography becomes a huge role in this industry hence it affects people enormously. Imagine the world without photography; the convenience of recording a moment would decrease dramatically. People cannot afford to spend time painting the scene in order to document that very moment. This would decline the lifestyle of people in the current century where speed is profitable.

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Post  LiliTcml on Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:15 pm

Same as Panchika, I totally agree with the saying, "The image contains the story within itself". I think that to capture one image is to tell a story that only the person who created that image can tell. Whether that image comes out beautiful or not, it is still containing memories of the photographer. For me, photography is one kind of art form as it was use as a tool for the painters in the past to help them in sketching and remembering details. Even though nowadays taking photographing has become over the top because of the easiness from the high technology, i don't think that any image has less in value than it was before in the past when everything, e.g. light, is concerned before one image can be taken.

Also agreeing to Kunyapat's response saying, "Although the picture tells us stories but not every of them tell us the truth". Even though everything in the image is real, but you cannot see what the photographer has excluded outside the photo frame as he can choose what is to be in his photo after all.

Lamar, Connelly. “Photo Class Three” 2011. PDF file.

“The Genius of Photography.” The Genius of Photography Episode 1. BBC Four

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Re: CommDe - Art History Response #3

Post  TAENTAI on Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:46 pm

In my opinion, photography in the past and nowadays is somehow difference. In the past, people invented camera just for capture the moments they want to keep as a memory. They didn’t consider about light, shutter speed, composition or balance. They only considered that picture will come out to remind themselves of yesterday memories. But nowadays photography is concerned more about how photo’s going to look great. People now consider seriously about what will affect their pictures. They invent many camera equipments such as lens and flash to help controlling details and light. Photography finally becomes a new form of art. Photographers communicate the feeling through their pictures as a visual language. I agree with the sentence said that, “Photography is about the frame you put around the image what comes in what cut off and yet the story doesn’t end.” (The genius of photography). Viewers can imagine through the picture about the feeling and the story beyond the frame.

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Post  panakorn on Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:51 pm

I agree with all on the above, especially Napassawan. According to the BBC documentary, “The freezing time.. this photography not only change the world but also the way people understood the world.” mean that the invention of photography have an impact on people so much. Because in the past, people used the camera obscura to assist in the capturing of images. But now photography can do more like help the artists to understand the actual image or help more about sketching.

In my opinion, It is interesting that photography has developed itself through time. According to the video, I totally agree with this "photography always transfer what it's describe that is the art of photography to control that transformation". And I believe that this technology will be develop more and more.

“The Genius of Photography.” The Genius of Photography Episode 1. BBC Four

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Post  Arachapon on Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:59 pm

Camera did have a big role on art and artists back in time. It changed how people understand the world from the old point of view. The perspective on how to see and image was changed , included the format of painting. I agree with Geoffrey Batchen that photography captures a moment from time and fit in place ,answers the problem of the artist how to capture a nice temporary moment, which lasts shortly. “Because it is cropped off even if it is random. It is considered intentional ”,said David Byrne.
The beginning and developing of camera is also interesting. Said Lyle Rexer,“The beginning was all about winning and struggling to see which process is a trial. How quickly, how cheaply, how accurately could an image be made how widely could it be distributed”
Then the portable Kodak’s Brownie camera was invented in 1900s. This changed a lot in term of taking a photo. Everyone could buy and have fun with it. “The art of photography was created without theories and without continuous artistic tradition”, said Peter Galassi.
For me I like taking photos. The invention of camera is a great thing for me and it has been producing inspirations to many artists. One obvious thing about art and photography is many photos might be accidental snapshot and turned out to be a meaningful work or interesting, but for painting that kind of accident sure rarely occurs.

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Post  Korawan T. on Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:27 am

It's quit fascinating of how the camera is being used so differently today from the past. It was used to help the painters measure the perspective for a painting. Over time, the use of camera been changed. Now a day, many people use camera for commercials and it's a kind of art now. For me, camera helps us capture something that happened very fast that it's too fast we might not remember it. Rebecca Solnit said that "Camera allows human being to see more faster than our own eyes. To break the world into a dissect motion." I understand her. Camera allows us to keep the moment, precisely, with us. It doesn't only capture the visual image of the situation that's happening, but it can also captures the feelings of the whole situation. Which, for me, it's a kind of art that is as fascinating as painting.

Chuck Close said that " there are no accidental masterpieces in painting, but there are accidental masterpieces in photography ", which I agree. Sometimes, or I could say most of the time, when I do my art work, I don't really get the final pieces as I expected. It usually ends up with something I 'accidentally' create. However, I think there are also some accidental master pieces in painting too.

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Post  Pornchanok on Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:38 am

Apart from help reminding you your precious memories, photography can also be used to tell stories or to create wonderful art pieces that you and the whole world can never forget. When combining your creativity along with photography, it can actually lead to something unexpectedly amazing! People did many great things by doing experiments on photography. Light and shadow can actually help making happen a scene from your dreams. The fact is camera was first invented to help the artist creating their art piece. So, for my opinion, photography is like the combination of arts and technology. Like what John Lasseter said “Art challenges Technology, Technology inspires Art”. It is such great combination. I’m very impressed.

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