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Post  New Vongin on Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:33 am

From the qoute “Colour is a supplement, but it is also, potentially, a seduction. Cosmetics make fleash more appealing, flesh that may be tired or old, or flesh that may be diseased, disfigured, decayed, or even dead.”(Chromophobia, chapter 3, page 52), I agree with this idea because as we
have seen in the television, films, music videos, events etc. Actors or model's skins look fantastic. Some actors and models in real skin without putting any cosmetic on, their skin may be has some flaw, not as perfect as we have seen. Kate moss in the early period of becoming a model, she used to wear less cosmetics on, then in the decent period, some technique of putting cosmetics on the tired skin might be applied. It is because Actors or models need an attractive look for their job. So Their real skin is the main proper elements and make up colour is a supplement. Then, they will all look totally perfectly amazing and seductive by those make up. Seduction could be in varieties, for example the dark tone of make up will make the model more dignify, or in a bright tone would turn that person into a lively look. It's also proved by the western history of Cosmetic. In the 19th Century, make up was used primarily by prostitutes. They need a make up to make them more interesting. Hiding their dead skin, so they can be seductive. It's also heard from the Thai said, it is “Hen is beautiful by its feather, Women are beautiful by their cosmetics” and a research result that 100% of women when put cosmetics on, they would get a better look.


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Post  kanomsho on Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:21 am

According to the chapter "Apocalypstick"

He had long been a connoisseur of colors both simple and subtle.In former years, when he had been in the habit of inviting women to his house, he had fitted out a boudoir with delicate craving furniture in pale Japanese camphor-wood under a sort of canopy of pink Indian satin, so that their flesh borrowed soft warm tints from the light which hidden lamps filtered through the awning. This room, where mirror echoed mirror, and every wall reflected an endless succession of pink boudoir, has been the talk of all his mistresses, who loved steeping their nakedness in the warm bath of rosy light and breaking in the aromatic odours given off by the camphor-wood.
"One of the advantages of 'this tinted atmosphere' is that brings 'a ruddy flush to complexions worn and discolored by the habitual use of cosmetics. . .'In Des Esseintes' mind, an intense connection is already being made between color, sex ,orientalism, artifice, cosmetics and intoxication. And the story has hardly started."

On page 56, said about the quest of Des Esseintes,that mention and described about the atmosphere in the boudoir that decorate by the warm tints tone, so all of the color and tone of color effect the mood and sense of human who lived in that room or house.
The people who live in a home make it beautiful by choosing colors that reflect their likes and their personalities. The trick is to blend those colors you like into a pleasing combination. Choosing color combinations is one of the most intimidating steps for beginners. Color has the power to change the shape and size of furnishings as well as the shape and size of the room itself.
We always use main two tone,red and blue,that make the room atmosphere feel different.Red groups did better on tests of recall and attention to detail, like remembering words or checking spelling and punctuation. Blue groups did better on tests requiring imagination, like inventing creative uses for a brick or creating toys from shapes.


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Post  Nackky on Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:53 am

As if the end draws near and he tended to be quite a bit of a pessimist, the way the author chose to argue at the first place by claiming that the word 'Colour' as we know it, is indeed dangerous. I was amazed by the further of his argument that the cosmetic colour in particular, is literally a drug! “There is an ambiguity in make-up; cosmetics can often confuse, cast doubt, mask or manipulate; they can produce illusions or deceptions – and this makes them sound more than a little like drugs. Drugs that are applied to the body: drugs of the skin” (Chromophobia 52). This very topic he has brought up is interesting in the way that we've been surrounded by its artificiality all the time, yet it was overlooked whether with intention or not. Those who do make-up, or paintings for living as an artist, they function as almost the fakers, since according to Barthes, colour was against truth. For Plato, “it tricks us with padding and makeup and polish and clothes, so that people carry around beauty not their own to the neglect of the beauty properly theirs through gymnastics...while the nobility of true beauty is found in the rigours of physical and moral discipline” (53). He made us realized how mankind were originally born with black and white appreciation, back in the days we could only approach things in those two, black and white TV for example. Now that colour was introduced to the world and it intoxicates our sense completely. Though I don't really feel like going with them, I think we were all born with colour, since the moment of embryos without knowing it even, but we've only been brainwashed by the cultural norms and the rooted society until people have came across their minds that there's actually colour all around, and maybe the started to feel uncomfortable about the change of feelings, suffocate, so they refused it at first, until time has changed to the period of the late 18th Century, the Enlightenment, when people tried to reason it out in everything. Then, they had to accept it with no excuse and that's exactly what I think. Same as Baudelaire, he appreciated the works of 'the masons' and further argued “...colour is a sign of civilization, not of its Fall; it speaks of nobility rather than of the 'fraudulent' and 'baseborn'; an appreciation of colour indicates a rise above nature, not a fall into its lower strata...not the sophisticated 'flaneur' who glides silently and invisibly through a world where everything has become surface (55). Colour also effects us in many different sorts of ways in terms of emotions, behaviors and so on. As we can see in J.K. Huysmans's novel A Rebours, the pink bourdoirs drove out the wilderness in those girls with simply how they love to the reflections of their nakedness and the rosy aromatic odours. As for Warhol, though colour for him is supremely artificial, all painting is cosmetic and behind that there's nothing. The point he said that the cosmetics also lead us to dress up, cross-dressing or even drag queens, literally going against nature (62).
However, the later part of the text tend to focus on which I could be more related than the first part, Human Rights and Equality. Seems like they finally agreed on what I have mentioned before, “Colour is often close to the body and never far from sexuality, be it heterosexual or homosexual (63). Colour is associated with all livings, that it seems to have a Queer bent itself. And thanks to all the post-modernity's sake, colour had destroyed the need of aristocratic distinctions, no more regularity nor irregularity. What I am trying to bring up here is that there is no longer the aristocrats like in the old days to set the standards of what's is good in what's bad, so the subordinates knew what and what's not to do. If you still have a blank idea what to imagine what it was like while people were fighting for freedom and using colour as its symbolic, you might want to take a look at Charles Kennedy as a 'colourful political personality'. There were quite a numbers of examples that I like of how people started to focus on the intimacy, especially the teenagers, who have inspired the rainbows, maybe this is how it came about of the Rainbow flag to symbolize the modern LGBT community worldwide.
All philosopher have been arguing over, but at the end colour can only be imagined away, “In literature and the movies, we can picture the world without colour; the rest of the time, in our daily lives and nightly dreams, we are stuck with it. We are not just surrounded by colour; we are colour ourselves” (70). It all comes back to us that everything is simply neutral, including both Chromphobia and Chromophillia since they are made of, and forms of colour and that nothing is about to escape it, ever.

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Post  Jarrunon.Ch on Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:55 am

“Colour is a supplement, but it is also, potentially, a seduction. Cosmetics make fleash more appealing, flesh that may be tired or old, or flesh that may be diseased, disfigured, decayed, or even dead.”(Chromophobia, chapter 3, page 52), If you think about it we would all notice on some level if someone we were with flushed bright beetroot from embarrassment or anger, was yellow or green from illness or shock, or blue from cold or choking. The colour of the skin therefore allows us to find out information about health or subtle emotional indicators. It’s like faces are TV screen displaying colours that we can read, meaning that we could be unconsciously more empathetic than we realise. “an appreciation of colour indicates a rise above nature, not a fall into its lower strata.” (Chromophobia, Chapter 3, pg. 55). This mention about colour can indicates a rise above nature. We are in control of how much we makeup colour wear, so we can choose to be pokerfaced or expressive in different situations. You might want to wear base in the boardroom to hide any blushes, but wear less makeup on a date, when you want your skin modulations to be natural and responsive.

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Post  Chayan_s on Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:28 am

Apocalypstick in chapter three, chromophobic or chromophilic presents the meaningfulness in the colour. “It is a drug, a loss of consciousness, a kind of blindness – at least for a moment. … But not always not for everyone.” (Page 51) and “colour is uncertainty, doubt and change,…”(Page 69) These ideas state that color has its own meaning depending on who are looking into that color and when because color can change their own meaning also. Due to, the emotional states of human relate on time, so the meaning is maybe good meanings or bad meanings. Accordingly, there are lots of meaning in color which make colour very powerful. Therefore, “Colour is dangerous.” (Page 51) and “For cosmetic, colour is also always less than honest. There is an ambiguity in make-up; cosmetics can often cause confuse, cast doubt, mask or manipulate; they can produce illusions or deception.” (Page 52) This statement shows how powerful and dangerous of the color and I am really agree with it because cosmetics can make everyone changes into a new guy. Some is better but some is worse, these depend on how that guy use what color for the cosmetics because color has its own meaning and depend on the viewer also.

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Post  Pao on Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:44 pm

Extract from Chromophobia (chapter 3, Apocalypstick, p. 52 and following)
Figuratively, colour has always meant the less-than-true and the not-quite-real. The Latin colorem is related to celare, to hide or conceal; in Middle English ‘to colour’ is to embellish or adorn, to disguise, to render specious or plausible, to misrepresent. […] If colour is a cosmetic, it is also, potentially, a seduction. Cosmetics make flesh more appealing, flesh that may be tired or old […]. In an atypical remark, Barthes writes in Camera lucida that he always felt, irrespective of what was actually the case, that colour was ‘a coating applied later on to the original truth of the black-and-white photograph. For me colour is an artifice, a cosmetic (like the kind used to paint corpses).’

Somehow to consider this paragraph realistically rather as a whole ideology, I have found a contradictiion within the concept itself. For what subject must cosmetic colors be applied, it is those of artificial appearance, manufactured, sculptured, or painted. These are meant to make emphasized by their authors. To justify cosmetic color as specious somehow seems idiotic. I consider cosmetic color as a method of depiction, to strengthen, to empower, to make plausible to the subject. From the epiphany by Lao Tzu, ‘The Way’, on the first chapter begins...‘The name that has been named is not the name, For the way that has been wayed is not the way….’; We are living in the fabricated world at the first place, a world that we and our culture as ingenuously simulated. The language, theory, philosophy, or even as of now the science, all of them were stated at the first place and convince to be discovered for it was the actual foundation of universe, yet all these figures method could never achieve perfectly in meaning of anything. It was a matter of all their method of persuasion, so why with this cosmetic color shall be condemned or neglected?
It is decorative as it was meant to conceal the unwished subject; to highlighten the other vice versa
It is not genuine as the subject or the audiences were not meant for nature, to find the pure existence with no bit of fabricated shard on it, then one shouldn't be complied with gallery or cinema at the first place.


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Post  natchana on Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:24 pm

From Chromophobia pg.9, state that 'Color is a double illusion, a double deception.' In my opinion, color as a make up is not only cover the truth of one thing or self but also can distract or lure you into a different feeling for it. As it states in pg.62, 'All painting involves the smearing of coloured paste over a flat, bland surface, and it is done in order to trick and deceive a viewer,the viewer who wants to be tricked and deceived into seeing something that is not there.' It seems to me that color is essential to us for it conceals the truth and we willingly let it. We use color to be an excuse to look away from the truth that we do not want to accept. Like kids that see colorful candies, even though they know those candies give you cavity, they eat them anyway.

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Post  Toshi on Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:57 pm

In the third chapter, Apocalypstick, one word caught my attention while reading the chapter. Which is “cosmetic”. There are a few quotes from Page 52 in the book Chromophobia that gives the readers some authors thoughts about cosmetics.

"If colour is cosmetic, it is added to the surface of things, and probably at the last moment. It does not have a place within things; it is an afterthought; it can be rubbed off."

“There is an ambiguity in make-up; cosmetics can often confuse, cast doubts, mask or manipulate; they can produce illusions or deceptions.”

"Cosmetics make flesh more appealing, flesh that may be tired or old, or flesh that may be diseased, disfigured, decayed or even dead."

From the above quotes, the author points out that there is a relationship between cosmetics and colors. We humans, use cosmetics on our faces to cover and hide our true faces. Cosmetics make us stand out and gives out more beauty. On the other hand, color also does the same thing. Color is like a coating or cover and hides what is under it.

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Post  Kawin on Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:25 am

“Colour is never reduced to mere ‘tinted chiaroscuro’; it is never subordinated to volume and space.” (chromophobia, chapter3, page 61). The color itself has meaning and gain attention from surrounding. If you look at something colorful, it draws your attention. The color can generate life and mood of the viewer. Without them, the world would not be pleasant. Warhol was the great artist of modern cosmetics. Warhol’s colour chemistry has the opposite effect: it destroys volume, space and modelling: the cosmetic is everywhere and everywhere evenly applied: to lips, face, figure, ground. In Warhol’s work, cosmetics also lead us elsewhere: to dress up, to cross-dressing, to drag. They are about sexual indeterminacy, about playing with the order of nature and going against Nature in a very specific way. Color is often close to the body and never far from sexuality, be it heterosexual or homosexual. When sex comes into the story, colour tends to come with it, and when colour occurs, sex is often not too far away.

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Post  Wajjanathon on Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:59 am

"If colour is cosmetic, it is added to the surface of things, and probably at the last moment. It does not have a place withing things; it is an after-thought; it can be rubbed off." (Chromophobia, Chapter 3, page 52) This quote compares color to cosmetic. It states that colour is used to cover what is hidden under it, just like cosmetic which is used to cover the looks of the person who applies it. "Cosmetics make flesh more appealing, flesh that may be tired or old, or flesh that may be diseased, disfigured, decayed or even dead." (Chromophobia, Chapter 3, page 52) By comparing colour to cosmetics, the author suggests that the existence of colour is merely to cover up what is needed to be hidden. This same idea is also suggested in the paintings. "In at least one sense, all painting is cosmetic. All painting involves the smearing of coloured paste over a flat, bland surface, and it is done in order to trick and deceive a viewer, a viewer who wants to be tricked and deceived into seeing something that is not there." (Chromophobia, Chapter 3, page 62) In this quote, paintings, in the author's point of view, is also considered as cosmetic. For the flat surface is compared to the face of a person, and colour is applied to cover up the plain surface. "The same is true, of course, for film, which to our eyes is often a more mystical cosmetic than painting. behind the dancing coloured light, there is just another flat screen, a monochrome-in-the-world of which we are reminded at the beginning and end of every movie." (Chromophobia, Chapter 3, page 62) Similarly, film is also viewed the same way as painting, where pictures are put into a flat screen. Pictures, being the cosmetic applied in motion to deceive the viewer.

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Post  Supanut on Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:28 pm

“ Color is dangerous. It is a drug, a loss of consciousness, a kind of blindness.. A loss of mind, a kind of madness perhaps.” (Page.51) .“ Color is often close to the body and never far from sexuality, when sex comes in the story, color tends to come with it and when color occur sex is often not too far away.” (Page63). This suggest the use of colors have an impact on how people react psychologically, according to this, the colors are also dangerous. In the Color Codes by Charles A. Riley, is an example of the use of color to separate the character's different type of sexual behavior. The use of color and lack of colors to explain the natural and unnatural side of the character behaviors. This also show that the use of the color is a kind of blindness as it try to “control” us thinking of similar behavior as two different things.

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Post  Nawat on Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:30 pm

“If color has the power to dream, to think or speak, then it is a very dangerous cosmetic. From this point, it is suggesting that color is powerful enough on its own to deceive people in different ways. Different in this case is the way how people perceive the color itself. Different people have different ways of perceiving things but no matter in what way color still have a big effect with the emotion. Color is heavily used in almost everything around us such as signs and posters with each one creating different effects and deceiving us in different ways as seen in the first paragraph, “Color is dangerous. It is a drug, a loss of consciousness, a kind of blindness”. “For Bardelaire, color had perhaps the greatest of all: the power to be autonomous” and “If I were a painter, I should paint only colors”. I only partially agree with this is because the fact that he is suggesting that color alone is enough to deliver the message while ignoring the context of the picture. While for me color for example a sign with words written on it. The word or context is the main message that will be delivered to the viewer while color of the written words will enhance the effect of the message. Without context color has no exact meaning. Surely the effect of the color itself is still there but it depends heavily on the way how the viewer perceive it which is very subjective.


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Post  Kik Nattakan T. on Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:43 pm

Cosmetics is one of the most important component that make women feel confidence with themselves, it’s popular and widely use among grown up female. We can use make-up tools to make our face look brighter or softer but putting on different color, and even change our skin color easily. It make we feel more beautiful because we think we looks better when they can become more like what they idolize. However the reading said that “for cosmetic color is also always less honest”, it creates illusion or deception to both consumers and observers which could be count as a little drug addiction. It not real because that is not what we originally look like and no one can probably be perfect without help from cosmetics. But even though we all know that it’s just an illusion but we still accept it as beautiful because our sense of is controlled by trend.

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Post  CatNicha on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:05 pm

The quote from the reading stated that "Colour is often close to the body and never far from sexuality, be it heterosexual or homosexual. When sex comes into the story, colour tends to come with it, and when colour occurs, sex is often not too far away" and I agree with it. People are unconsciously assume that women tend to like warm tone such as red and pink, in other hands, men tends to like cold tone colour. And they used this to symbolize two different sexes, for example, blue is a representation for male and red for female as we can see from the toilet sign. However this doesn’t include homosexual, in some country they another colour to represent such as in Thailand we used purple for homosexual because purple is a combination of red and blue which means that homosexual is a sex in the middle between male and female.

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Post  Aerobow on Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:15 pm

After watching the whole film, the scene that is most captivating must be the scene with the red room due its explicit messages about human primitiveness and urges when exposed by a stron and emotional color as RED. prior to the scene, the group seems subtle and calm in a dull and poor litted grey room, which in my opinion is a reflection upon our society, a crowd of expressionless faces and emotionless individuals trying as much as they can to hide their mind from one another. But as they enter the red room, their emotion exploded and becomes overpowering, they start losing themselves and become much more exposed to being touched and felt by others. As if their shield are now gone. They become joyful, silly and sexual without any kind of sense all of a sudden. One observation that is interesting is how the man, from the factory, who is illustrated so white to convey the theme of urbanism, "broke lose" of the red room's arousing nature by suddenly kicked the wooden panel on the wall creating a hole, which then introduce the element of the color grey. This man of order and control, is trying to break free from "freedom" and "exposure" to true primitive feelings by trying to introduce some sort of control over the crowd or to atleast feel being part of the urban world again.

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Post  Aerobow on Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:14 pm

Color truly is a "drug", and much like to drugs, it causes temporary pleasure and glamour and permanent damage, something that starts sweet and ends bitter. From the quote, "Colour is often close to the body and never far from sexuality, be it heterosexual or homosexual. When sex comes into the story, colour tends to come with it, and when colour occurs, sex is often not too far away", from this quote it immediately relates to that scene i just spoke of in Red Desert, as color comes into play sexuality is unvoidably followed. It is something that brings us back to the sense of primitiveness and naturality, the deeply buried savageness in our mind slowly unraveld and dominates our action and thoughts. We become uncontrollable, but from what? uncontrollable is seen as something that breaks out of order, an order set by the society, that marks what is suitable and what is not. Set of rules that must be followed to fit in with the society. Then, I see a paradox here, if colors is about being revealing our true self and breaking free from invisible force of social orders and behaviour, then why people masks themeselves with even more colors to FIT IN with society. If cosemtics IS color, then wouldn't that be contradicting itself? I find myself confuse in people, as the the quoted stated that make-up (or colors) "masks a mask" (page 53), to create a "double deception" within oneself. To me, it is not a double deception, yes in physical terms but to me it is a deception of different purposes: the first layer of deception, the facade, marks the deception to the exterior, the public, the people, the objects, to fool them with our emotionlessness, our lies, deceit and repression. The second layer, the make up, marks the illusion set by the subject to lie to themselves, to fool themselves, to cheat themselves out of reality, to deny of all acceptance of their true nature and most essentially, to assert themselves into the realm of timelessness, immortality. To me, make-up can be explained with a one sided mirror, where the others would just look at the person with a small amount of interest and would just view them for the sake of self reflection and contemplation onself from observing others, whereas the the mirror side is for the subject to view him or herself to remain beautiful both in the eyes of oneself and the others, to remain perfect, to remain timeless. From the quote, "Color is a supplement, it is also, potentially, a seduction. Cosmetics make flesh more appealing flesh that may be tired or old, or flesh that may be diseased, disfigured, decayed or even dead" can help make my point further. After thinking about the self reflection theme, I can see why people use make-up, to avoid the reality of life, the end: death. People each day puts on make-up to hide those wrinkles, those scars, those pains and those past and remain spot-on clean of all history of pains, suffering, anger and lies to others and to oneself an remain firm and unbreachable. This roots back into history into the time of the aristocrats where the ladies would pattered themselves with as much white as possible along with a small colorful circles on their cheeks to siginify the sense of royalness that dominates their primitiveness, in my opinion of course on the dominating part. This is a mark of distinction from reality, that they themselves are people, no different to the ones cleaning their clothes, cooking them dinners and cutting their grass, where they view as "lower". Due to their wealth, they would of course spend every last cent on anything extravagence that makes their live seems meaningful and of advanced desire. But, nonetheless life is life. So they use make-up as a lie, to lie themselves, to trick themselves with a thin veil of surface that tells them, "I look so young and timeless". They use make-up to achieve something unaffordable with physical currency, so they turn to something pseudo, make-up, to acquire the unaquirable, an escape from death itself: Immortality.

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Post  Wajjanathon on Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:58 pm

ps. I'm afraid that my last post was too short, therefore I have edit the post.

In the film Red Desert, Michelangelo Antonioni used the contrast in color to represent the real world and the world that the female lead sees. The dark, gloomy color is used to represent the industrialization of Italy, and at the same time represents how the female lead visualizes that industrialized world. Michelangelo also used the bright colors to reflect how the female wanted her world to be like. The enhanced bright color of the clothes that her son and herself wore clearly show that she was not seeing the industrialized world, but her very own.

The movie also used noise to reflect industrialization. Most movies would subside the noise which contradicts the reality. But, in Red Desert, Michelangelo used noise in the movie to make the viewer experience the reality. The loud noise of machines reflect how industry is portrayed as very dominant and powerful. However, in that loud noise, it shows how industrial interrupts communication and lives.

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Post  Panivarin Kongmahasanti on Wed Oct 05, 2011 8:22 pm

In the film "Red Desert" by Michelangelo Antonioni, colors and landscape are used to imply and drive the feelings and attitude. The scene in which the fog is used to obscure the landscape shows Giuliana's feeling towards the modern society; Giuliana is lost, alienated, and disconnected to people around her. The color,grey, of the scene really creates the feeling of hostility in the atmosphere. Everything has become cold. As the green coat that she is wearing in that scene represents nature, Antonioni successfully uses it to emphasize the fact that nature seem to be taken away in the industrial world.



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Post  apisub on Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:47 pm


In reading the Apocalypstick I can see from the quote on page sixty-two “ In the least one sense, all painting is cosmetic. All painting involves the smearing of coloured paste over a flat, bland surface, and it is done in order to trick and deceive a viewer, a viewer who wants to be tricked and deceive into seeing something that is not there…there is no substance beneath the surface, no depth behind the appearance.” where we use color to create an effect for the viewer. We can say that color create illusion on the surface where it is apply on. It creates tones and depth for the viewer and sometime it respond to the viewer and how they want to view it.

“There is an ambiguity in make-up; cosmetic can often confuse, cast doubt, mask or manipulate; they can produce illusions or deceptions…”

We can say that people use color every day to create illusion and deception for other and how they want other to view them. Combination of colours in cosmetic creates positive effects to the viewer but sometime wrong combination of colours create a negative effect to to the viewer.

“Behind the dancing coloured light, there is just another flat screen, a monochrome-in-the-world of which we are reminded….” Page sixty-two.
Movies for example use light to project colours onto the screen and create a story. Digital media also use colour to create effect on the viewer such as movie where are one of the great example. In a futuristic movie green are often introduce and in horror or thriller movie blue are often introduce which create stereotype for movie category.

We can see that we use and see color in everyday life that is use to create illusions and deceptions in every media and we depend on them and use them to hide something. These do not only create effect on the viewer but also have effect on our self where we become more confident in our social activities.

“Colour is always meant less-than-true and not-quite-real…”

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Red Desert

Post  Arnan Chansurawong on Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:54 pm

In the film "Red Desert" by Michelangelo Antonioni, many color, landscape, and noise used in different scenes in the movie give us different mood and feeling. They also indicate us about the culture and also architecture in the past time. The scene at which the man followed the lady to her new shop is one of a good example. Buildings, road and also shop beside the street show us the architecture and color tone used at that time. This color tone also make us feel calm and relax since the tone is light grey. When they get into the shop that has not finished decorating yet and showing us all white wall inside, this wall makes me feel relax and want to find out something from this shop and also this woman. The noises in this movie are great too. For example the scene in the factory, noise describe well that where the noise is from. Michelangelo Antonioni gives us many details about the lifestyle, the culture and how they treat nature during industrial time.

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Apocalypstick

Post  Arnan Chansurawong on Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:34 am

After reading the topic of Apocalypstick, i have informed that color is so powerful in everyway. Color is like cosmetic of everything. It makes painted thing shows out mood and feeling.
I have some statements that is interesting. The first one is “For cosmetic, colour is also always less than honest. There is an ambiguity in make-up; cosmetics can often cause confuse, cast doubt, mask or manipulate; they can produce illusions or deception.” (Page 52)
I agree with this statement because color, painting, acts like cosmetics. It can change painted thing into a new thing and represent new meaning.Some color show good and some is bad due to the one who see it and also the shape and color we used.
Another statement is “All painting involves the smearing of coloured paste over a flat, bland surface, and it is done in order to trick and deceive a viewer,the viewer who wants to be tricked and deceived into seeing something that is not there." (Page 62)
This statement describes well that color is what we use to describe our feeling and our thinking both positive and negative thinking. This also depends on the viewer thinking too. The interested viewer will understand our feeling and what we are telling them. The painter may wants to describe something or to force the viewer to the thinking that is not there in the painted thing.

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Post  Jessada on Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:56 am

As this film's uses of colors, the real color has been drained out of everything. The only colors we see in the film are manmade. The color had been made contrast noticeably. There are many scenes such as, the woman in the first scene at the factory, the colors are so different. As in the scene that Giuliana telling the story about alone girl, the color seems to be unreal which its meaning is this story is like a dream. The colors of the walls, houses, or even pipes are not natural color. The used colors are thick, bright, and glossy. There are no natural colors that contain any real. Even the natural elements look unreal. The land is covered with muck, the sea is coated with oil, and the sky is choking in yellow smoke clouds. I think these contrast scenes are for emphazing important spot of each scene which the audience could naturally notice.

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Post  Jessada on Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:00 am

Color is something that is so complex and various. From the page 70, “Color is a lapse into decadence and recovery of innocence, a false addition to a surface and the truth beneath that surface.” This line told that how complexity the color is. It can show the meanings and idea of the surface where color is coated and it also can lead to misconception, these will come from personal thought. Color’s used for enhancing the appearance and also degrading if it’s used in wrong way. From page 52, “Cosmetics make flesh more appealing flesh that may be tired or old, or flesh that may be diseased, disfigured, decayed or even dead." This line noticeably shows that color has two-side functions. This quote state that women’s cosmetic, which is like the art of color on human’s face, can become ugly even its beautiful color, if it’s used unconsciously. But if it’s used correctly, it will bring beauty to that woman. People is society creature. It has to have something to show towards the society and its color. Color has been used to promoted human self to feel that society admits. This quote state the previous context, “faculty that can assemble colors in an enhancing manner…colour is a sign of civilization,…indicates a rise above nature..” which is in page 55. I think color is seemed to be easy to use but it can result in negative thing if it’s wrongly used.

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Apocalypstick-Monotony

Post  Supanut on Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:23 am

***PS, I cant post on my own username due to my account problems,again, sorry sir
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Look at some one life in the component of senses,humane identity is always containing thoughts of regardless thinking through the chosen or acceptable perceptive aspect: “If I were a painter, I should paint only colors”, Roland Barthes said something that could fail himself if he was really hired to be a painter, all generous graphic designers would notice this possible fact too. 

Staying quite sure in the statement: “Color is dangerous. It is a drug, a loss of consciousness, a kind of blindness”. Blindness that sometimes so powerful and arbitrary is almost similar to the infinite definition in shape and form.
Logos of brands in the world, many of them solely provide monotone scheme but really how many of “RED” or BLUE” brands could be recognized? is that really the colors only that explicitly represent the brands or the titles?
Crying to see somethings and craving to memorize those things is actually the behavior of ones who are over-minded by not and never of only a single essential factor: the cause of any expressive visual target that exists, usually has quantities in physic involved to what Terence McKenna said once;
 try to imagine an apple without color but with shape... Now try and imagine an apple with color but without shape".
Terence McKenna was an etho-anthropologist researching on the perceptive effects of natural psychedelics substances in plants and spoke ones in a lecture of the primary and secondary qualities in physics and he said as an attempt to precisely describe the established hierarchies in physics
there is not right or wrong but one’s own reasoning/argumentation, this theory could be incredibly interesting to expose and validate the intuitive proposal of having a monotony on color.




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Post  woo jin park on Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:17 am

Response of reading apocalypstick
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Reading apocalypstick was fun, it’s talking about how color effect on different people in different ways.
It said that color is dangerous, drug, a loss of consciousness, and a kind of blindness. Moreover the book trying to say there is a connection between color and civilization.
In my opinion the author wants to express there is a no difference between painting and cosmetic. It influence me to think about how to see and think about different colors, and how it influence my way of feeling too.
In conclusion this book is about Philosophy of favoring line over the different colors and basic stencil technique in silkscreen, and printing a different single color form in different layers.

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